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Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1753	Posted - 2016.04.10 23:26:24 - [1] - Quote Hey Tiffany, welcome to EVE. I suggest you join a corp. If it's not the right fit, just leave and join another one! I have been in several corps where females were treated well. Voice comms are important because people who refuse to join tend to be lying about who they are, and that can be a rather significant thing in EVE Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Cara Forelli Meticulously Indifferent 1756	Posted - 2016.04.12 03:40:09 - [2] - Quote Anna Price wrote: Again sorry about this, I'm sure most of you do not have this attitude - but I've just seen it way to much and felt like Cara Forelli implied it to some degree (I might be wrong though as I was just drinking with a friend, so I'm not entirely sober - so sorry if I'm mistaken) EVE is not like other games. You have to be very careful who you place trust in. Today, for instance, a director-level spy released chat logs which included some very nasty statements made by the leader of the single largest coalition in the game. The things he said will undoubtedly cause thousands of players to defect from his cause and will probably cost him World War Bee, all because he put trust in someone who was not who they claimed to be. There are many reasons people lie about who they are in EVE, and none of them make good additions to a secure corp. Older players pretend to be new players to worm their way into soft-target organizations and awox them. Members of rival alliances masquerade as neutral parties looking for a group to join so they can infiltrate your ranks and collect intel. However, these things are much harder to do when voice comms are required, so the first thing people do is come up with some excuse to avoid them. Tiffany was a prime example of this. The caricature of "dumb blonde female newbie" he/she crafted was actually offensive at times. Around the time of the watchlist changes (which made it much harder to fight highsec wars effectively without spies) there was a whole rash of suspicious looking threads in this forum and elsewhere from people like this who were trying to establish a "background" as a new character, some more subtle than others. If you aren't a Tiffany, congratulations, you have a firm enough grasp on many aspects of the game to make me suspicious. Take that as a compliment - you're a fast learner! If you are a Tiffany, well, you haven't fooled me...yet As for your particular issue with voice comms, it is understandable, but from the recruiters standpoint, it isn't worth the risk. If you really are a "female" (why are we putting this in quotes?) then you have a legitimate concern, but the recruiter really has no way of knowing if that's true or if you actually intend their organization harm (no matter your gender). Generally they will air on the side of caution. Some well-meaning people will get turned away, but that's the price you pay for corp security. I have seen plenty of "males" rejected for refusing to use voice comms. And just so you know, I really am sympathetic to your specific issue. Believe it or not, as a "male" I once experienced the same issue - a very creepy (and sometimes violent) guy got quite attached to me and started trying to learn my personal details, making comments about coming to my home etc. I can only imagine how much worse it is as a "female" in a bad organization where this sort of thing is tolerated. However, in my experience, there are actually plenty of groups in EVE which will swiftly boot people acting this way, you just need to find one. Although you will need somewhat tough skin; you are usually playing the game with a bunch of drunk men after all. TLDR: Try and try again until you find a corp not filled with creeps. Demanding special accommodation (no voice comms) is likely to exclude you from the better groups. It's not personal, it's just EVE. TLDR2: It doesn't matter who you are, as long as it matches who you claim to be. "femalefemalefemale" Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament

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